Äripäevas siis selline kurb artikkel kuidas GM oma suures raha hädas on arvatavasti sunnitud Saabi maha müüma. Ostjaid mainitud pole aga vaadates viimaseid selliseid tehinguid siis arvatavasti idast keegi ostab juhul kui tehinguks peaks minema:wall:
uudis ise siis
SAAB SULETAKSE? - SAAB MÜÜDUD SPYKER'ILE!!!
Lugege lisa veel Trollhättansaabi kodukalt, seal on järjest lajatatud mitu mammutteemat, mis otseselt või kaudsemalt selle teemaga haakub.
"Why do those people who drive SAAB have THAT smile on their face?!" / J.Clarkson
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djstallion
- Postitusi: 269
- Liitunud: T Veebr 19, 2008 18:24
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Tänapäeval on suudetud paljudele legendaarsetele automarkidele taas edukalt elu sisse puhuda, ei tahaks hästi uskuda, et SAABki manalateele läheb. Pigem võib SAABist saada uue omaniku valduses veelgi kallim nišitoodang, mis mõnes mõttes oleks pöördumine tagasi juurte suunas.
Kui uusi SAABi mudeleid vaadata, siis nende juures ei ole minu silmis midagi sellist, mis eristaks neid silmnähtavalt mistahes teisest kaasaegsest automudelist, näevad liiga tavalised välja. See fakt ja suhteliselt kõrge hind ongi ilmselt põhjused, miks SAABil eriti hästi ei lähe. Kui uus emafirma suudaks SAABi muuta taas ekslusiivsemaks ja teistest selgesti eristuvaks, võiks SAABil oluliselt paremini minna. Tegelikult jagub maailmas piisavalt inimesi, kes on nõus ja suutelised maksma hallist massist erineva ja eksklusiivsema toodangu eest, milla hulka SAAB hetkel paraku ei kuulu.
Kui uusi SAABi mudeleid vaadata, siis nende juures ei ole minu silmis midagi sellist, mis eristaks neid silmnähtavalt mistahes teisest kaasaegsest automudelist, näevad liiga tavalised välja. See fakt ja suhteliselt kõrge hind ongi ilmselt põhjused, miks SAABil eriti hästi ei lähe. Kui uus emafirma suudaks SAABi muuta taas ekslusiivsemaks ja teistest selgesti eristuvaks, võiks SAABil oluliselt paremini minna. Tegelikult jagub maailmas piisavalt inimesi, kes on nõus ja suutelised maksma hallist massist erineva ja eksklusiivsema toodangu eest, milla hulka SAAB hetkel paraku ei kuulu.
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djstallion
- Postitusi: 269
- Liitunud: T Veebr 19, 2008 18:24
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Näiteks Baierlased on läbi aegade suutnud (kord paremini, kord halvemini) oma nägu hoida, miks ei peaks seda Saab suutma? 30 aastat vana ja uus Baierlane on mõlemad juba kaugelt äratuntavalt ühe margi esindajad. Küll aga ei saa sama Saabi kohta öelda, uued mudelid justkui ei kuulu hulka.Algselt postitas: pva
Keegi ei uuenda ju klassikut ja ei pane T7 mootorit sisse...
Sweet,
http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/showt ... ge=2&pp=20
Esimene postitus seal.
(inglis keeles)
http://www.saabcentral.com/forums/showt ... ge=2&pp=20
Esimene postitus seal.
(inglis keeles)
Algselt postitas: pva
Mqnes mqttes Audi on hetkel rohkem BMW, kui BMW ise
Alfa 159 3.2 mootor pole Alfa mootor, kuid Austaalia GM tytre oma.
Saabist aga hetkel pole midagi eriti jaanud - ikkagi ideoloogiat. Designi trendid natuke.
Mu < 3 a. poiss tunneb omal algatusel Saabid kaugelt ära, märke nägemata, ja just suvalise põlve 9-3 või 9-5. Saab on midagi ikka õigesti teinud
Hea muidugi, et kinni ei panda..
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djstallion
- Postitusi: 269
- Liitunud: T Veebr 19, 2008 18:24
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Kõigil siiski halvasti ei lähe: http://www.postimees.ee/?id=19582Algselt postitas: taneli01
Hästi ei lähe vist ühelgi autotootjal.
Iga ratas veab and then some!
Algselt postitas: IFF
Saabi tootmine USA'sse
Enne kui pabistama hakata, tasub üle lugeda ka see - GM to build Saab in North America
terv, teager
Viimased uudised GM majandustulemustest:
GM posts $15.5 billion loss, as sales sputter
By Kevin Krolicki and David Bailey
DETROIT, Aug 1 (Reuters) - General Motors Corp posted a $15.5 billion quarterly loss on Friday, as North American sales ropped by 20 percent and plunging prices for SUVs prompted deep charges for its auto finance business.
GM shares tumbled 6 percent in reaction to the automaker's innouncement of the deeper-than-expected loss, the third-largest quarterly loss in its history.
The No. 1 U.S. automaker also burned through $3.6 billion in cash in the quarter as it ran down inventory of slower-selling vehicles in its slumping home market. GM's net loss was equal to $27.33 per share, compared with a profit of $891 million, or $1.56 per share a year earlier, reflecting a sharp drop in demand for the light trucks that represent about 60 percent of its sales.
GM took $9.1 billion in charges against second-quarter results, including $3.3 billion for buyouts of U.S. factory workers, $2.8 billion for its exposure to bankrupt former parts unit Delphi Corp and $1.6 billion to write down lease values.
Revenue fell to $38.2 billion from $46.7 billion a year
earlier.
Excluding one-time items, GM posted a loss of $6.3 billion, or $11.21 per share. Analysts on average had forecast a loss on that basis of $2.67 per share, according to Reuters Estimates, and had looked for revenue of $42.36 billion.
GM ended the second quarter with $21 billion in cash and $5
billion in credit facilities. It said it had provided notice in July that it would draw down $1 billion under a secured revolving loan facility.
Chief Financial Officer Ray Young said GM's second-quarter
cash position was slightly better than the automaker had
forecast and said GM was on track with a plan to free up $15
billion in liquidity through 2009 with a combination of cost-cutting, asset sales and new borrowing.
"Our focus is cash flow and liquidity. That is our focus," Young said.
The struggling automaker's cash position has become an increasing concern for investors and analysts, who have begun
to question whether and when GM's liquidity could fall below the levels needed to run its cash-hungry global operations.
Ratings agency Standard & Poor's on Thursday downgraded GM to "B-minus" and warned the automaker was on track to burn through roughly $4 billion per quarter this year, sending GM bonds to a record low price.
After losses totaling $51 billion over the previous three years, and a $3.25 billion loss in the first quarter, GM faced a battery of problems in the second quarter, including a slide in U.S. sales that sent its shares to a 54-year low.
GM's global auto sales dropped 5 percent and it lost $4 billion on its auto operations before charges in the second quarter as record gas prices sank demand for trucks and SUVs.
The automaker was was also hit by some $2 billion in pretax losses from a strike by the United Auto Workers union at a key
supplier and some of its own plants during the quarter.
Then the market for financing leases on big SUVs collapsed, saddling both GM and its smaller rival Ford Motor Co with large
losses.
On Thursday, GMAC LLC, GM's former financing arm, was forced to write down the value of the GM's lease contracts because of the slumping value of the carmaker's big SUVs.
Under lease contracts, automakers and their finance companies rent vehicles to consumers and sell the used vehicles when the leases expire at wholesale auctions.
But the collapse in demand for SUVs this year has been accompanied by a steep drop in their resale value as consumers flock to more fuel-efficient passenger cars.
The resulting drop in resale values on SUVs prompted a $717 million charge by GMAC and bigger subsidies by GM, which retains 49 percent of the finance company after spinning off
the remainder to Cerberus Capital Management.
GM said declining lease values at GMAC had depressed its
second-quarter results by $2 billion.
(Reporting by Kevin Krolicki; Editing by Derek Caney, Gerald E. McCormick, Dave Zimmerman)
REUTERS
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GM posts $15.5 billion loss, as sales sputter
By Kevin Krolicki and David Bailey
DETROIT, Aug 1 (Reuters) - General Motors Corp posted a $15.5 billion quarterly loss on Friday, as North American sales ropped by 20 percent and plunging prices for SUVs prompted deep charges for its auto finance business.
GM shares tumbled 6 percent in reaction to the automaker's innouncement of the deeper-than-expected loss, the third-largest quarterly loss in its history.
The No. 1 U.S. automaker also burned through $3.6 billion in cash in the quarter as it ran down inventory of slower-selling vehicles in its slumping home market. GM's net loss was equal to $27.33 per share, compared with a profit of $891 million, or $1.56 per share a year earlier, reflecting a sharp drop in demand for the light trucks that represent about 60 percent of its sales.
GM took $9.1 billion in charges against second-quarter results, including $3.3 billion for buyouts of U.S. factory workers, $2.8 billion for its exposure to bankrupt former parts unit Delphi Corp and $1.6 billion to write down lease values.
Revenue fell to $38.2 billion from $46.7 billion a year
earlier.
Excluding one-time items, GM posted a loss of $6.3 billion, or $11.21 per share. Analysts on average had forecast a loss on that basis of $2.67 per share, according to Reuters Estimates, and had looked for revenue of $42.36 billion.
GM ended the second quarter with $21 billion in cash and $5
billion in credit facilities. It said it had provided notice in July that it would draw down $1 billion under a secured revolving loan facility.
Chief Financial Officer Ray Young said GM's second-quarter
cash position was slightly better than the automaker had
forecast and said GM was on track with a plan to free up $15
billion in liquidity through 2009 with a combination of cost-cutting, asset sales and new borrowing.
"Our focus is cash flow and liquidity. That is our focus," Young said.
The struggling automaker's cash position has become an increasing concern for investors and analysts, who have begun
to question whether and when GM's liquidity could fall below the levels needed to run its cash-hungry global operations.
Ratings agency Standard & Poor's on Thursday downgraded GM to "B-minus" and warned the automaker was on track to burn through roughly $4 billion per quarter this year, sending GM bonds to a record low price.
After losses totaling $51 billion over the previous three years, and a $3.25 billion loss in the first quarter, GM faced a battery of problems in the second quarter, including a slide in U.S. sales that sent its shares to a 54-year low.
GM's global auto sales dropped 5 percent and it lost $4 billion on its auto operations before charges in the second quarter as record gas prices sank demand for trucks and SUVs.
The automaker was was also hit by some $2 billion in pretax losses from a strike by the United Auto Workers union at a key
supplier and some of its own plants during the quarter.
Then the market for financing leases on big SUVs collapsed, saddling both GM and its smaller rival Ford Motor Co with large
losses.
On Thursday, GMAC LLC, GM's former financing arm, was forced to write down the value of the GM's lease contracts because of the slumping value of the carmaker's big SUVs.
Under lease contracts, automakers and their finance companies rent vehicles to consumers and sell the used vehicles when the leases expire at wholesale auctions.
But the collapse in demand for SUVs this year has been accompanied by a steep drop in their resale value as consumers flock to more fuel-efficient passenger cars.
The resulting drop in resale values on SUVs prompted a $717 million charge by GMAC and bigger subsidies by GM, which retains 49 percent of the finance company after spinning off
the remainder to Cerberus Capital Management.
GM said declining lease values at GMAC had depressed its
second-quarter results by $2 billion.
(Reporting by Kevin Krolicki; Editing by Derek Caney, Gerald E. McCormick, Dave Zimmerman)
REUTERS
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pedaalinahhaal
- Postitusi: 82
- Liitunud: K Aug 08, 2007 17:31
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Kui suvaliselt inimeselt tänaval küsitakse, et kas sa ostaksid omale SAAB-i? Vastanutest suurem osa ütleb, et ei, sest jupid on kallid, mingi osa kes on "katsunud", ütleb valiku vastavalt sellele mis margiga ta hetkel kulgeb, kas jah või ei, ülejäänud pisipisike osa, vastab tugeva "JAH", kuna see on "Äge teistmoodi pill ja süütelukk on istmete vahel 
".
SAAB-il on ennegi jamasid olnud, sestap ta GM-i valdusse läkski, aga nagu näha, vähemalt siiamaani on ellu jäänud, loodetavasti ei kustu ka tulevikus.
".SAAB-il on ennegi jamasid olnud, sestap ta GM-i valdusse läkski, aga nagu näha, vähemalt siiamaani on ellu jäänud, loodetavasti ei kustu ka tulevikus.
Algselt postitas: vallikas
Saab üritab miinusest välja tulla
Jäi silma viimane lause: "Uute mudelitena tulevad välja värskendatud 9-5, lisaks linnamaastur 9-4X, mida toodetakse dollaritsoonis Mehhikos."
Uus 9-5 saab küll põnev olema, kuid see et tootmist Mehhikosse viiakse on küll kurb. Siiani kõik luksusautode tootjad, kes Mehhikosse tootmist viinud on saanud tulemuseks viletsa kvaliteediga autod, kuid kuna seal põhiliset toodetaksegi USA turu jaoks, siis USA autode ostjad erilist kvaliteeti ei nõuagi
romza